An Honorable Mention W/ Shane & Jeff

This week the podcast took a somewhat unexpected turn. As opposed to a deep dive into one of the more than 200 events Hagadorn was involved in (or one of the numerous others he was not), we sat down with ROH alum Alex Payne for an in-depth conversation on his decade-plus career.Alex opens up about it all: training with Austin Aries and Bryan Danielson and his feelings on them both; the birth, as well as the ups and the downs of being branded "Sugarfoot" and his own regrets about it. Alex talks Pro Wrestling NOAH, training in their dojo, and his time spent overseas. He delves into how that nearly broke him, and how it fueled his motivation to become something else away from the ROH spotlight. He also talks how his Ring of Honor tenure ended during the HDNet/Adam Pearce era and a rather explosive phone call between AP and himself.Join Jeff and Shane and Alex as they engage in a pretty open and honest discussion on the ups and downs of chasing a dream.